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Following are excerpts from an interview with Tunisian Salafi cleric Khamis Mejri, which aired on Hannibal TV on December 2, 2012 and May 26, 2013:
Interviewer: You are making use of the inventions of the infidels.
Khamis Mejri: Yes, we agree on that. There is nothing to prevent this. Just as they have made use of our culture... When Christopher Columbus went to America, he took a Muslim imam – Al-Tirmizi, who was a geographer – to show him the route to America. The West was established only on the civilization of Islam.
Interviewer: What inventions of our culture is the West using? Camel urine?
Khamis Mejri: We have become slaves to them because of the politicians who sold out their religion, and adopted the American, Western, version of religion. They are implementing the agenda of the West. In the days when we took pride in our Islam, we ruled the world, and when we renounced Islam, wanting to impose the Western enterprise on our countries, we became slaves, pawns manipulated by the West according to its will.
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Interviewer: Isn't democracy a Western invention we should adopt? Why do you consider it to be heresy? The iPad is good but democracy is bad? Elections are bad? The state and its laws are bad? What, all Western inventions are bad, except for the iPad, the car, the telephone, and French culture?
Khamis Mejri: Please let me finish.
Interviewer: Go ahead.
Khamis Mejri: We are permitted to use all these material means – medicines, electronic devices, airplanes, and so on. The Muslims adopted many things from the Greek and Persian civilizations, and used them in their daily lives. These are good things that Allah has instructed us to use. Occupation and colonialism, on the other hand, pertain to ideology. Anybody who claims that the solution is not Islam has surrendered to ideological occupation and colonialism. I live in the West, yet I profess that Islam is the solution. I am subject neither to occupation nor to colonialism. As long as I preach belief in Islam and in Allah, and as long as I profess that the solution lies in Islam, I am not subject to colonialism or occupation, even if I were to live in the palace of Pharaoh.
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As long as I call for Islam – even if I do it in the U.S. Congress itself – I am not subject to occupation. If, however, the imam of Zaytuna University or of the Al-Haram Al-Sharif Mosque calls to practice the American brand of Islam, he is subject to occupation.
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I am not in favor of burning the flag, but when I see the Tunisian flag... It represents the Sykes-Picot [agreement], through which the West divided the Islamic Caliphate into fragments. Algeria got a flag, Morocco got a flag...
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When someone fights for the sake of a flag – this is not accepted by Allah.
Interviewer: Really?
Khamis Mejri: Of course.
Interviewer: But he is fighting for his country. When someone is fighting for his country – this is not accepted by Allah.
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One who fights for his country is not fighting for the sake of Allah, and is not considered a martyr when killed.
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Some people say that there is no such thing as a time for prayer. They renounce prayer. These people should be killed as infidels. This is the ruling of Imam Al-Maliki, not mine. This is written in the Al-Maliki Doctrine.
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Interviewer: Who did you vote for? Be honest.
Khamis Mejri: I did not vote for anyone, and will not vote for anyone.
Interviewer: Why not?
Khamis Mejri: This is my position on "deceptocracy."
Interviewer: You do not believe in elections and democracy?
Khamis Mejri: It is not democracy, but "deceptocracy."
Interviewer: So elections are nonsense for you.
Khamis Mejri: As far as I am concerned, the solution is the implementation of Islam.
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Sheik Bin Laden, Allah's mercy upon him, carried out an honorable act of Jihad. He fought the USSR and the Americans, who came to the region in order to plunder the resources of the Muslims. Bin Laden should be thanked for this.
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