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British Islamist journalists marked the third anniversary of the U.S. pullout from Afghanistan with a discussion about the Taliban's Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan in an August 28, 2024 episode of the Muslims Uncensored podcast on 5Pillars on YouTube. Editor of British Islamist media company 5pillars Roshan Salih said that he doesn't consider Britain home because it is dar al-kufr (the Abode of Infidels). He later said that he is supportive of the Taliban and wishes it a lot of success. Salih said that Muslims should withdraw their children from schools in the U.K., especially their girls, because of the corruption taught in the schools.
Dilly Hussain deputy editor of 5Pillars, talked about his recent visit to Afghanistan. He said that no women appear on billboards, there is no music, alcohol, pork, or gambling.
5Pillars Islamist journalist Robert Carter said: "We need someone like the Taliban to come here and shut down [the] education and fix it up."
Dilly Hussain: "Even fellow Muslims from other conservative Muslim countries may find aspects of Afghan life under the Islamic Emirate a bit different, but other things won't come as different, other things might be celebrated. For example... did you see a single woman being advertised anywhere?"
Roshan Salih: "Oh no of course not."
Hussain: "Did you hear music anywhere?"
Salih: "No."
Hussain: "Do you know what the brothers said to me? They said to me... by the brothers I mean the brothers I was with, the entourage and the brothers that were hosting me that were not part of the government or anything like that. They were like: 'We can guarantee you that there's not a single bottle of alcohol sold in this country. No one is licensed to sell khamr [alcohol] in this country.' There is not a single pig here for all the taste and the likes of tourists. There's no clubs and discos. There's no betting houses."
Salih: "There's no LGBT pride."
Hussain: "There's nothing. There's none of this stuff."
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Salih: "We are living in dire kufr [unbelief] here. That is an accurate description. We are living..."
Hussain: "Do you see Britain as home though?"
Salih: "I never, I do not see Britain as home."
Hussain: "Not at all?"
Salih: "I do not feel at home here."
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"I just find it difficult, like, believing practicing Muslim who knows his or her deen [religion] feeling comfortable in the pit of dar al-kufr. I find that contradictory. I don't know how they can do that."
Hussain: "You can't."
Salih: "I don't think... We should feel comfortable here, in the future generations."
Hussain: "You're right in that regard but I think there's enough accommodation in non-Muslim countries, Roshan, let's be frank about it brother. There's enough accommodation, at least in Britain, not France, at least in Britain, where you have enough options and services there where you can kind of live in a Muslim bubble. Let's be honest about it. Alum Rock [Birmingham], possibly London."
Salih: "You turn on the radio in the car and the first thing you hear is Taylor Swift or whatever."
Hussain: "You switch it up to something else."
Salih: "You look at the billboards and there's naked women and, you know, and it's kind of..."
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Robert Carter: "I don't know if you saw this while you were out there because you were so busy, but there was a massive reaction."
Hussain: "Oh we definitely saw it."
Carter: "From all of the Western, pro-West Afghan diaspora basically."
Hussain: "Yes."
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Hussain: "These are people that either collaborated with the occupation, had benefitted from the occupation, they worked under the occupation, they enjoyed the kind of the religious laxity of the occupation, they have fully adopted Western notions of freedom, and women's rights and these kind of things. They liked having discos and clubs, they liked having these kinds of places where men and women mix frequently. They liked having... so there's a spectrum of that stuff."
Carter: "That's why they're annoyed, because they can't go to Kabul and do a disco..."
Hussain: "Some of the..."
Carter: "They want silly feminism in Afghanistan."
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"They see you go there and enjoying yourself and having a whale of a time and they can't do the same thing."
Salih: "A lot of these people that emigrated, or you know, they left the country after 2021, they were opportunists. They didn't have to emigrate."
Hussain: "They chose to."
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Salih: "I always credit Taliban."
Hussain: "You have to."
Carter: "You're the editor, you tell us."
Salih: "I wish them a lot of success."
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"I'm supportive of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, but I consider myself to be a critical friend. Not that they care, they don't care what I think, and fair enough. They shouldn't care what I think, but that's my position. So are we pro-Taliban? A little bit, yeah.
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"I don't think British Muslims should send their girls to school here, by the way. I think they should withdraw their kids from school. Especially the girls because it's corruption, its façade, 100%."
Carter: "We need someone like the Taliban to come here and shut down education. Fix it up. Fix it up."
Salih: "Can we edit that please?"
Hussain: "Chop it out."
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Carter: "How dare Afghans that live here go over there go over there and lecture, or anyone, go over there and lecture them about education when the education here is nowhere near as good as it should be.
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"This country in terms of women's rights is a bloody disgrace."
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