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Jordanian Hizb Ut-Tahrir activist Dr. Mohammad Malkawi, who is also known as "Abu Talha," discussed current events in an August 2, 2024 podcast, with Muhammad Shirazi, the director of Islamic Oasis, during Malkawi's visit to Chicago. Malkawi said that the United States blocked Israeli sea ports with its Navy ships and shut down Israeli airports after October 7, in order to prevent Israelis from escaping. When Shirazi asked whether this means that Israelis are forced to live in Israel, Malkawi replied that the Zionists "invented" the Holocaust in order to evict the Jews out of Europe. He then continued to claim that the United States invented Islamic terrorism, 9/11, and the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, in order to "scare the heck out of Europe." The podcast was streamed live on the YouTube channel of Islamic Oasis, a Chicago-based Islamic charity. It is worth noting that Dr. Mohammad Malkawi was a founder of the Chicago Hizb Ut-Tahrir chapter, and he currently lives in Jordan.
Malkawi: "When the 7th of October happened, and this Al-Aqsa Flood created a big voice there, a big sound, they called it a catastrophe, hundreds of thousands of Jewish people in Israel were packing their bags and they were ready to leave.
"Had the United States not blocked the ports with their Navy ships, and had not closed the airports, probably Israel would have been emptied.
"These people would have gone back to Europe, wherever they have come from, Which means that it is not a final state, that it is a state in transition..."
Interviewer: "You are actually saying that the Israeli population is being forced to live in Israel?"
Malkawi: "They were promised in the 30's or in the 20's after the Balfour Declaration, that we are going to build you a state, just move, and when they resisted the move, they did not move, they brought what they called the Holocaust, invented the Holocaust, with the invention of the holocaust I have documents that say that there were some delegations from the Zionist party who visited the Hitler administration and pressing them, saying: "We do not need Jews to stay in Europe. Do whatever it takes." And they have done everything possible to evict Jews out of Europe."
Interviewer: "Hitler did [to the Jews] the same thing that they are doing to the Muslims today."
Malkawi: "True."
Interviewer: "I mean the exact same thing."
Malkawi: "Exactly the same thing. That's why they had a cold war on the Soviet Union for more then 30 years before it ended in 1989 or 1990. Once that was over, America was caught with their pants down, they can't do anything [in Europe]. They had to create another environment where they can scare the heck out of Europe. They created terrorism, Islamic terrorism, which is fake. There is nothing called Islamic terrorism. It is a phantom. It is absolutely a phantom, there is nothing called Islamic terrorism. There is nothing called... the so-called Islamic terrorist threat to the world. This is absolutely absurd.
"They invented 9/11. They invented the World Trade Center 1993-1994 [attack] and they tried to blame it on many Muslim elements. Eventually, they created ISIS. They created all of these things to scare the heck out of Europe. At the end of the day, they cannot play this game for very long, because that Islamic terrorism – which they created – it can become real Islam and then they will be threatened."